In this episode of the Apollo 40 Under 40 Art & Tech podcast, Gabrielle Schwarz speaks to Kelani Nichole, owner of TRANSFER gallery, and Jessica Oralkan, co-founder of Collecteurs, a digital museum for collectors. They discuss how new technologies, from increasingly sophisticated online databases to NFTs, have transformed the practice of collecting. Oralkan explains the process of digitising a physical art collection, and Nichole talks about why it is important to create physical spaces for digital art.
The third series of the Apollo 40 under 40 podcast features conversations with some of the individuals celebrated in this year’s Apollo 40 under 40 Art & Tech, presented in partnership with BNP Paribas. Previous episodes can be found here.
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